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Legal Speak is a weekly podcast that makes sense of what's happening in the legal industry. Each episode tackles a subject that's worthy of a deep dive—from law firm profit hacks to Supreme Court showdowns to the most promising plays in legal tech. Hosted by Senior Litigation Reporter of the Daily Report Cedra Mayfield and Senior Staff Writer for the American Lawyer Patrick Smith, Legal Speak offers straight talk from experts, plus an inside-the-newsroom perspective on market-shaping stories.

Feb 24, 2023

In this week's episode of's Legal Speak podcast, Nathan Cemenska, director of legal operations and industry insights for Wolters Kluwer ELM Solutions, explains that clients have more leverage than they might think when it comes to negotiating law firm rate increases.