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Legal Speak is a weekly podcast that makes sense of what's happening in the legal industry. Brought to you by's global network of reporters and editors, each episode tackles a subject that's worthy of a deep dive—from law firm profit hacks to Supreme Court showdowns to the most promising plays in legal tech. Hosted by editors Leigh Jones and Vanessa Blum, Legal Speak offers straight talk from experts, plus inside-the-newsroom perspective on market-shaping stories.

Oct 4, 2019

As part of our Minds Over Matters project, reporter Dylan Jackson interviews three industry pros who talk about how legal professionals, including marketing directors, business developers and law firm administrators, often feel under-appreciated and misunderstood at work. They also address how these employees feel left out of the mental health initiatives launched by law firms to address anxiety, depression and substance abuse among lawyers. Interviewed are Lynn Foley, founder of legal consulting firm fSquared Marketing; Patrick Krill, founder of Krill Strategies; and Deborah Farone, head of Farone Advisors.