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Legal Speak is a weekly podcast that makes sense of what's happening in the legal industry. Each episode tackles a subject that's worthy of a deep dive—from law firm profit hacks to Supreme Court showdowns to the most promising plays in legal tech. Hosted by Editor-in-Chief Zack Needles and Newsroom Innovation Director Vanessa Blum, Legal Speak offers straight talk from experts, plus an inside-the-newsroom perspective on market-shaping stories.

May 1, 2020

Forget swanky lunches, cocktail parties and boat outings. The coronavirus pandemic means this year's summer associate programs, for those law firms still conducting them, are online endeavors at this point, as Zoom meetings replace law firms' best laid plans. You'll hear from Skadden’s Gavin White, a partner in New York who helps handle the firm’s summer associate program, and from Renee Griffin, who is finishing up her second year at Michigan Law School and who had big plans for a summer associate experience at Cleary Gottlieb in D.C.