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Legal Speak is a weekly podcast that makes sense of what's happening in the legal industry. Brought to you by's global network of reporters and editors, each episode tackles a subject that's worthy of a deep dive—from law firm profit hacks to Supreme Court showdowns to the most promising plays in legal tech. Hosted by editors Leigh Jones and Vanessa Blum, Legal Speak offers straight talk from experts, plus inside-the-newsroom perspective on market-shaping stories.

Sep 12, 2017

Duration: 08:50

Lawyers and other members of the professional class simply don’t get the white working class or their plight. And that lack of empathy on the part of the elites is the reason Donald Trump won the presidency—and may do so again.

That warning comes from Joan Williams, a professor at University of California Hastings College of Law, in her new book “White Working Class: Overcoming Class Cluelessness in America.” Last week, I wrote about Williams’ book (I called it “a timely, provocative and necessary read”).

Here is my follow-up podcast with Williams about why lawyers should care about the white working class.